Comments on: Your Pontif, Go Read More History http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/ With Sake, nothing tastes better than Olives. But you would have to be a Levantine living in Japan to know that. Fri, 18 May 2012 11:50:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: waiting for the barbarians http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3079 waiting for the barbarians Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:31:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3079 An excellent post. I found the whole situation rather surreal - I mean, the pope was a Nazi anti-aircraft gunner in his youth and is now the head of an organisation responsible for the Inquisition, the crusades, and the burning and drowning of thousands of women as witches - an organisation which sanctioned the genocide of the native Americans and which tacitly colluded with the holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis. And he has the nerve to call other religions evil!! An excellent post. I found the whole situation rather surreal – I mean, the pope was a Nazi anti-aircraft gunner in his youth and is now the head of an organisation responsible for the Inquisition, the crusades, and the burning and drowning of thousands of women as witches – an organisation which sanctioned the genocide of the native Americans and which tacitly colluded with the holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis. And he has the nerve to call other religions evil!!

]]> By: dragon51188 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3033 dragon51188 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:38:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3033 I would say that yes, the general theory of religion is a good thing, "Be excellent to each other," to put it in the words of Bill and Ted. Sadly, though, religion in practice is prone to corruption by politics because there is no way to prove that what politicians change about a religion is wrong. Religion has passed through so many hands it's impossible to tell what was changed to suit any given person's political agenda. You just have to do what you know is good for the world. I would say that yes, the general theory of religion is a good thing, “Be excellent to each other,” to put it in the words of Bill and Ted. Sadly, though, religion in practice is prone to corruption by politics because there is no way to prove that what politicians change about a religion is wrong. Religion has passed through so many hands it’s impossible to tell what was changed to suit any given person’s political agenda. You just have to do what you know is good for the world.

]]> By: Yazan http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3019 Yazan Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:08:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3019 Annie, thank you..<br/><br/>and on a side, u donno how much seeing ur comments on this blog excite me.<br/>Thank you, I hope we'll have a chance to meet again. Annie, thank you..

and on a side, u donno how much seeing ur comments on this blog excite me.
Thank you, I hope we’ll have a chance to meet again.

]]> By: annie http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3017 annie Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:34:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3017 Yazan, I have loved your comment.<br/>I was born into a catholic family, so I did not choose at birth but I refuse with everything I have, this stupid, ignorant, aggressive pope. <br/>It has been a long time anyway that I have put the middleman in a corner and that my agnostic relationship with God is a straightforward affair. Yazan, I have loved your comment.
I was born into a catholic family, so I did not choose at birth but I refuse with everything I have, this stupid, ignorant, aggressive pope.
It has been a long time anyway that I have put the middleman in a corner and that my agnostic relationship with God is a straightforward affair.

]]> By: Shady Zayat http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3015 Shady Zayat Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:40:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3015 @Zaher:<br/>"... we cannot fail to recognize the infidelities to the Gospel committed by some of our brethren, especially during the second millennium. Let us ask pardon for the divisions which have occurred among Christians, for the violence some have used in the service of the truth and for the distrustful and hostile attitudes sometimes taken towards the followers of other religions..."<br/> John Paul II<br/> Sunday, 12 March 2000<br/><br/>I'm not saying the church is the most democratic institution ever, I can't deny the fact that it has played a destructive political role in the past and that it tried to control peoples thoughts, albeit <b>it's changing!</b> Huge steps has been made regarding its role, its interpretation of the Christian faith, its look to other religions and to personal liberties.<br/><br/>Now I'm not Mr. Prayer, I'm not even convinced of the existence of god - though I'm not sure he doesn't exist - but I have quite a good insight into Christian faith, and yes, believe it or not, <b>It has developed</b>.<br/><br/>What I hate the most about this kind of debate is that we tend to attack someone on some historical mistakes that he himself is aware of and has <b>publicly rejected</b>, without even considering his actual point of view.<br/><br/>I've wrote something on the issue, check it out <a HREF="http://shadyzayat.blogspot.com/2006/09/benedict-in-news.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>. @Zaher:
“… we cannot fail to recognize the infidelities to the Gospel committed by some of our brethren, especially during the second millennium. Let us ask pardon for the divisions which have occurred among Christians, for the violence some have used in the service of the truth and for the distrustful and hostile attitudes sometimes taken towards the followers of other religions…”
John Paul II
Sunday, 12 March 2000

I’m not saying the church is the most democratic institution ever, I can’t deny the fact that it has played a destructive political role in the past and that it tried to control peoples thoughts, albeit it’s changing! Huge steps has been made regarding its role, its interpretation of the Christian faith, its look to other religions and to personal liberties.

Now I’m not Mr. Prayer, I’m not even convinced of the existence of god – though I’m not sure he doesn’t exist – but I have quite a good insight into Christian faith, and yes, believe it or not, It has developed.

What I hate the most about this kind of debate is that we tend to attack someone on some historical mistakes that he himself is aware of and has publicly rejected, without even considering his actual point of view.

I’ve wrote something on the issue, check it out here.

]]> By: Zaher http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3013 Zaher Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:23:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3013 @ shady<br/>excuse me how can he take it easy on the "Pope"<br/><br/>i'm not with or against any religion but i don't consider catholicism as one . because it's simply just a political institute that controls peoples beliefs and limits it within one place they call it church.<br/><br/>"Frankly, the catholic church was one of the most couragous religious authorities out there to stand firm admitting it's own pitfalls, against it's own crimes."<br/><br/>The church didn't apologise for the crimes committed during the Crusades<br/><br/>so sorry once again but when it comes to the ability of developing religions the church is the last place to do that. @ shady
excuse me how can he take it easy on the “Pope”

i’m not with or against any religion but i don’t consider catholicism as one . because it’s simply just a political institute that controls peoples beliefs and limits it within one place they call it church.

“Frankly, the catholic church was one of the most couragous religious authorities out there to stand firm admitting it’s own pitfalls, against it’s own crimes.”

The church didn’t apologise for the crimes committed during the Crusades

so sorry once again but when it comes to the ability of developing religions the church is the last place to do that.

]]> By: Shady Zayat http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/comment-page-1/#comment-3011 Shady Zayat Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:39:00 +0000 http://yazanbadran.com/blog/2006/09/your-pontif-go-read-more-history/#comment-3011 "Holy Wars, has been fought in the name of every single thing, good and bad... Religion, God, Communism, Civilization, Land and Freedom".<br/><br/>And since religion is a work under developement, just like any other human doctrine, the church is currently alienating itself from this kind of violence and so should Islam do.<br/>Frankly, the catholic church was one of the most couragous religious authorities out there to stand firm admitting it's own pitfalls, against it's own crimes.<br/><br/>So take it easy on the pope, yazan. “Holy Wars, has been fought in the name of every single thing, good and bad… Religion, God, Communism, Civilization, Land and Freedom”.

And since religion is a work under developement, just like any other human doctrine, the church is currently alienating itself from this kind of violence and so should Islam do.
Frankly, the catholic church was one of the most couragous religious authorities out there to stand firm admitting it’s own pitfalls, against it’s own crimes.

So take it easy on the pope, yazan.

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